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Venice: Uncensored vs DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017
Published LiveBench scores across all seven categories, live list pricing, context windows, and the measured cost of a point of capability — for both models, side by side.
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 is the cheaper of the two; neither can be ranked on quality here.
Venice: Uncensored does not have a published LiveBench run, so this comparison covers price, context and declared capabilities only. A missing score means "not evaluated", not "worse" — the right way to separate these two is an eval on your own workload.
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Venice: Uncensored
- Blended / 1M
- $0.375
- Context
- 128K
- Released
- Jul 9, 2025
- Overall score
- Not evaluated
deepseek
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017
- Blended / 1M
- $0.262
- Context
- 1.0M
- Released
- Oct 17, 2026
- Overall score
- 72.9
Specs and pricing
| Metric | Venice: Uncensored | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 |
|---|---|---|
| LiveBench overall Weighted mean of the seven LiveBench category scores, 0–100. Higher is better. | — | 72.9 |
| Cost per point Measured benchmark spend divided by overall score — dollars per point of capability. | — | $0.0018 |
| Blended price / 1M 3:1 input:output mix, the usual shape of production traffic. | $0.375 | $0.262win |
| Input price / 1M | $0.200 | $0.150win |
| Output price / 1M | $0.900 | $0.600win |
| Cached input / 1M Price of an input token served from the prompt cache, where the provider publishes one. | — | $0.0030 |
| Context window | 128K | 1.0Mwin |
| Max output tokens | 8K | 393Kwin |
Benchmarks by category
An overall score averages away the thing you probably care about. These are the seven LiveBench categories scored separately — Venice: Uncensored on top, DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 below, both out of 100.
What each one costs to run
Per-token prices are hard to feel. These are monthly list costs for both models across five workload shapes, using each provider's published cached-input rate where there is one.
| Workload | Venice: Uncensored | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 |
|---|---|---|
| Support chatbot 1.2K in / 400 out × 200K requests | $120.00/mo | $73.42/mo |
| RAG assistant 8K in / 600 out × 100K requests | $214.00/mo | $97.20/mo |
| Coding agent 40K in / 4K out × 20K requests | $232.00/mo | $85.68/mo |
| Document extraction 20K in / 1.5K out × 50K requests | $267.50/mo | $187.65/mo |
| Bulk classification 500 in / 20 out × 5M requests | $590.00/mo | $361.50/mo |
Which should you pick?
You need to fit large documents in one call
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017
Wider context window — 1.0M against 128K.
Venice: Uncensored vs DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 FAQ
Which is better, Venice: Uncensored or DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017?
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 is the cheaper of the two; neither can be ranked on quality here. Venice: Uncensored does not have a published LiveBench run, so this comparison covers price, context and declared capabilities only. A missing score means "not evaluated", not "worse" — the right way to separate these two is an eval on your own workload.
Is Venice: Uncensored cheaper than DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017?
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 is cheaper. On a 3:1 input:output blend, Venice: Uncensored lists at $0.375 per million tokens and DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 at $0.262 — DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 is 43% cheaper. Input and output are priced separately — Venice: Uncensored charges $0.200 in and $0.900 out, DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 charges $0.150 and $0.600 — so the model that looks cheaper flips depending on how output-heavy your workload is.
Does Venice: Uncensored or DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 have a bigger context window?
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 has the larger context window: 128K for Venice: Uncensored against 1.0M for DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017. Note that a window you can fill is not a window you should fill — retrieval quality usually degrades well before the limit, and you pay for every token you put in it.
Do Venice: Uncensored and DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 support prompt caching?
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 publishes a cached-input rate of $0.0030 per million tokens against a full input rate of $0.150. The catalogue lists no separate cached rate for Venice: Uncensored, which means the provider does not price it separately here — not that caching is unavailable.
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How these numbers are produced
- Price — provider list price from OpenRouter, refreshed every 15 minutes. “Blended” is a 3:1 input:output mix.
- Scores — LiveBench release 2026-10-25, using their own category map. Each model shows its strongest published run. A blank means “not evaluated”, never “bad”.
- Cost per point — the measured dollars LiveBench spent on the run, divided by the score it earned.
- “Win” — awarded only past a threshold: one full point on a benchmark score, 10% on a price, 25% on a context window. Anything tighter reports as a tie, because effort settings alone move a LiveBench score by more than that.
Published benchmarks rank models on someone else's tasks. Before committing, see LLM & agent evaluation for building an eval on your own.